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"60 MINUTES" PREVIEW OF ROGER CLEMENS FIRST INTERVIEW REVEALS 8 DECEPTIVE PROBING POINTS WITHIN 31-SECONDS

Analysis by:
Janine Driver, Lyin’ Tamer

FEB.13/ 08 UPDATE:
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Yankees pitcher Roger Clemens' former trainer, Brian McNamee, testified that he injected Clemens with steroids in 1998 while with the Toronto Blue Jays and with steroids and human growth hormone in 2000 and 2001, while with the New York Yankees and now Clemens is on Major League Baseball's Mitchell Report. And This Sunday night, "60 Minutes" Mike Wallace will interview Clemens, where he will say that his trainer only injected him with legal drugs.

However, according to world-renowed deception detection and body language expert Janine Driver, aka "The Lyin' Tamer", Clemens' body language reveals that there just might be more to the story.

People can get a peak at the several deceptive body language probing points while Mike Wallace previews his exclusive interview for "60 Minutes" on www.cbsnews.com.

The 7 Deceptive Probing Points (PP) are as follows:

Wallace: "Did your former trainer, Brian McNamee (PP #1), ever inject you with anything?"
Clemens: "Yes, he did.
Wallace: "What?"
Clemens: "Lidocaine and B-12 (PP #2). It's for my joints. And B-12 I take still today. A lot of trainers have ahh"
Wallace: "And that's all?"
Clemens: "That's it."
Wallace: "Never, ever a (PP #3) human growth hormone? (PP #4)"
Clemens: "Never (PP #5 & PP #8)."
Wallace: "Never testosterone?"
Clemens: "Never (PP #6 & PP #8)."
Wallace: "And never anabolic steroids?"?Clemens: "Never (PP #7 & PP #8)."


PP #1: Clemens sticks out his tongue when Wallace mentions McNamee's name. The tongue protrusion sends the signal of disliking, displeasure, or uncertainty. It often contradicts verbal remarks. Tongue-shows can reveal misleading or uncertain areas in statements; therefore it is always a probing point to be analyzed. A great follow-up question to ask during this portion of the interview would have been, "Is there any reason why you just stuck out your tongue when I mentioned McNamee? Maybe Clemens would have said, "Yes, I am so angry that he is lying about me." Or maybe, just maybe, the question would catch him off guard and he would reveal even more deception.

PP #2: Clemens looks down left when he answered, "Lana Cain and B-12." When we are asked a question, or try to recall a piece of data our brain goes on a search. Our eyes will move in many directions depending upon the type of search. The search is the process for our thinking. Most right-handed people look down left when they are in self-talk mode. They are not recalling something and they are not feeling something, but they are having an internal dialogue. A good question here might have been, "Have you practiced answering this question before this interview?" Or maybe even, "Take a second and picture in your mind's eye every shot McNamee ever gave you. Tell us about what you see."

NOTE: Most right-handed people when answering Wallace's question would typically look upper left, which is visually recalling something or they would look down right indicating that they were aware of feelings, movements and/or physical sensations. Here by Clemens demonstrating the self-talk cue, it simply lends itself to another probing point.

PP #3: Clemens demonstrates another tongue protrusion when Wallace says the words, "Never, ever a." Usually when we see a tongue show before a statement it's an indicator that whatever the person is about to say the truth is actually the opposite. For example if someone said, "No, I don't believe in Santa Clause." e.g., a tongue protrusion would suggest, "I actually do believe in Santa."

PP #4: Clemens sucks in his lips in a micro-expression of anger; his upper lip actually disappears into a straight line, when Wallace says the words, "a human growth hormone." This is another probing point. The best follow-up question here would be, "Is there any reasons why you get angry when I mention human growth hormone?" Maybe Clemens would respond saying, "Yes, I a livid that my career and my integrity are on the line here about a bunch of false information." Or perhaps we would have seen additional deception probing points that would allow us to dig deeper.

PP #5: After Wallace asks, ".a human growth hormone?" we see Clemens nod his head "yes" while he says "Never." We saw this same deceptive probing point with Bill Clinton when he also proclaimed his innocence on national TV when he said, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." The perfect follow-up question here would have been, "Really?" Then after Clemens answered the question "really," then say nothing and just look at him until he spoke again. Then after he responds again say, "Is there something you'd like to get off chest?"

PP #6: After Wallace asks, "Never testosterone?" we see Clemens again nod his head "yes" while he says "Never."

PP #7: After Wallace asks, "And never anabolic steroids?" we again see Clemens once again nod his head "yes" while he says, "Never."

PP #8: Clemens answers all three questions about the illegal drugs with the word, "Never," which is not as strong as the word, "No," therefore, it's another probing point. Ask yourself how you would answer this question. Sometimes when you compare your answer with someone else's answer, it helps you to see what the person is saying. For instance, if I were to ask you, "Have you ever killed anyone?" What would you say? Would you say, "Never!" Or if I asked you, "Have you ever given your children heroin?" How would you respond? Most people simply say, "No." Because Wallace uses the word "never" in his question it makes his question a weak question. The better question would have been "Tell us about your experience/history with muscle enhancing drugs." Or maybe even, "In what situations would you use a growth hormone?" It's easier to lie when you only have to respond with one word. If you want to bust someone who is being less than truthful, then be sure to ask opened-ended questions to get people talking. According to Frank Marsh from the National Drug Intelligence Center, "When people use the words "never" or "always" they are verbally puffing up their statements. It's similar to when men puff out their chest when they see a beautiful woman."

Hopefully, in the full interview we'll see Wallace get Clemens talking!

Be sure to tune into "60 Minutes" this Sunday night to see the entire interview, and you be the judge! Fact or fiction? And catch Janine's LIVE analysis on FOX NEWS with E.D. Hill between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. this coming Monday!


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Janine Driver, Lyin’ Tamer, is a body language & detecting deception expert, author, speaker, and radio personality. Janine offers her signature training to political advisors, law enforcement officials, attorneys, judges, and professionals in the medical and sales industries. Janine’s training helps people just like you make certain that every moment you spend with others is profitable!

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* AUTHOR’S NOTE: Although Clemens’ verbal and non-verbal signals are incongruent and indicate deception, it is impossible to determine what specifically he is hiding without asking him follow-up questions to the above “probing points.”

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